@corner Stone designs. sorry if I had given an impression it mud slinging. but objectively speaking the suggestion to go for a chimney just because someone asked for it instead of addressing the real issue us not what I intended to do. one has to understand all the negatives as well veggie going in for a decision . just like you have the right to suggest there is nothing wrong in pointing out the issues in the proposed solution. none of us are internet warriors but most of us are "sold" items that we will never need in our life by creating an illusion. I know that dinner call it business but I am not in such one and I have the luxury to call a spade a spade. Even now the person who asked for is not sure in what they want but they think that a chimney will solve the issue. engineering doesn't work that way. unless we know what the real issue us, which isn't clear if it is the smoke or the smell and the your of food cooked, the frequency, the 80/20 utility of the kitchen we are not even close to understanding the problem. my intent is to emphasize the importance of understanding the problem and then look for issue and not provide a ready made solution. we can all suggest something by seeing a picture that fire will come and catch the chef if it is located in the window but do you think that what you say is practical. you may construct this as much slinging be as a novice I have a genuine question. how many houses have such a fire accident. we don't even know if the stove is electric or gas. if it is electric then they just no question of fire. so I encourage you to objectively approach and not see this as a mud slinging thing as that's not the point.

I am looking for Glass Hob, Vertical Glass Chimney and Built In Oven. I am getting mixed feedback across different forums so thought to reach here (impressed with some of the pointed comments so far). I am planning to choose between Bosch, Elica, Hafele and Faber. Can anyone please help ? I need to finalize it in next 3-4 days. I am purely going by the brand name (plus my previous experience with Bosch) so preferred the following 1). Bosch Glass Hob 2). Bosch Built In Oven (though it has aluminium burner but the one with brass burner 'Hafele/Elica' has the problem of making utensils black) 3). For chimney they do not offer 60cm Filter less chimney hence thinking to choose between Hafele or Elica. Please suggest if this is the right choice. Thanks in advance

Hi, From your Question, I understand that you are looking to integrate a built-in DW and MW in an existing modular kitchen in your home or a new one you have ordered from a kitchen cabinet manufacturer. In either case, your first phone call should be to your kitchen supplier who fitted / will be fitting the kitchen cabinets. Here's WHY? The kitchen cabinet supplier will confirm the size of appliance required as per the kitchen design. They must have made suitable provisions in the cabinets to accommodate these equipments inside cabinets. The cabinets for DW and MW are different from the rest, since the DW sits directly on the floor while MW needs an escape vent at the back for hot air. 2. You need to confirm whether there exists 15 amp power points at appropriate places for each equipment. 3. For built-in DW, a water inlet and outlet at correct positions are required. The kitchen vendor and/or the built-in DW supplier will visit your home and do PDI to mark the exact location of electrical / plumbing points. It will be useful if the kitchen vendor and plumber / electrician are at hand during this PDI, so as to check and discuss relevant issues on the spot and give their confirmations ( or alternatives ) and close this essential issue to the satisfaction of all concerned. Usually, the actual spot is marked on the wall itself and a line drawing showing kitchen cabinets with exact electrical / plumbing positions marked clearly on it, are shared with relevant agencies to eliminate mistakes, if any. Any corrections reg electrical / plumbing will be expensive and time consuming once the cabinet and countertops are fitted. The appliances are typically installed at the end of the project, when all other works are done and almost all agencies ( read workers ) engaged in the premises have left. So, any mismatch between the initial discussion and actual execution comes to light too late in the day !! To avoid this scenario, ask the built-in equipment supplier to visit once more and verify if their requirements are met. Oftentimes, appliance cos. take refuge in such 'non-compliant' provisions and avoid delivering on committed guarantee / warranty, in case of issues at a later date. It's better to go through this cycle once initially, and get everything right in one go. It is also worth noting here that the positions of electrical / plumbing points vary with brands and models, so once you freeze the brand and model, it is advisable not to change the decision thereafter. However, if your kitchen cabinet maker is a pro and experienced, you may just leave it to him and sit back. A good company / professional will take care of all this. Most of the points mentioned above come with a steep learning curve and are not in any book. They don't teach this in any professional design / architecture course. Once all above is sorted....just check out prominent brands in your city / region. Some names that have stood the test of time are SIEMENS / HAFELE / KAFF / ELICA. All of them have a reasonably good service set up which will get top 'selection criteria' in my book. Also, most of them have enough machines out in the field and that means they are likely to have common spares etc with them, when needed down the years. It is a good idea to buy appliances from a single brand as that saves you the trouble of calling different companies for each appliance. Regarding specific model selection....most machines have all the basic features that are commonly used. A MW may have 58 ( so to speak ) pre settings that you may never use unless you are a Chef. Ask your wife and/or leave this to the family member who will spend most time in kitchen. MW with grill / convection features is a good choice and all above brands have them. Hope this answers your Question, and apologize for a loooong reply. But it's better to know relevant issues and decide. Thanks and good luck :)

That explains his opinion. Your description until now was for outlay doors. Slideline 16 is capable for 50-60 kg and 18-24 mm doors only. As I said earlier, not a big fan of bottom running sliding systems. Hope it works fine for you. Steel decorative strip is possible . But avoid deep cuts on the door that would increase the chances of bend/warp.