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LN: With shakes and trim on the garage gable- I kept the trim because it looked like a completely different house without. I also have a wood door and wood shutters. I forgot to work on that post- but I'll tweak it some more! It's pretty! KG: Yes mam, we are getting there! Is this Urbane Bronze and Trickrn Black? I think I’d like to straighten the arches over the extra garage and make them 90 degree angles only.
KG: I'm highly attracted to this pallette as well (colors on left). I thought the Caviar black could be the roof, Rookwood Terra cotta for the garage doors and front door, Mountain Road for the background and Perle Noir for the trim. What do you think? LN- We could do Perle Noir for the background or Caviar for the trim!
KG: Love the board and batten trim are on the house and are muted and in this
KG: Love this too; SW Iron Ore, BM Revere Pewter and a wash on the brick. LOVE LOVE this updated Tudor.
KG: I feel like I have a "type." I like the multi color craftsman happiness of these tudors that mix and mingle the browns and taupes.
KG: I love the ivory, browns and cedar shutters. I'd like to add cedar shutters to the two windows on the existing garage face.
KG: I love this too and could be a great solution if brick doesn't match. I love incorporating two colors on the house with red cedar trim.
KG: I'm beginning to turn my attention to the exterior aesthetics. I like this color scheme; screams warm and inviting. Also contemplating painting the brick if we can't match ours.
SY: here is the tile that seemed preliminarily to fit the bill for the foyer and kitchen. https://www.build.com/affinity-tile-fpekdame/s1682183?uid=3974240&searchId=GLeAmF72oY
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KG: I like the arch in the fireplace opening and this mantle. I think it's smart to wire the FP for a tv even if we don't use it and just hang a picture over the outlet.
SY: I think your bedroom fireplace wants to be brick ... either white painted like the family room one, or unpainted like the outside brick. I like this with a mantle... any thoughts on the bedroom fireplace design? KG: I like painted or whitewashed at minimum.
SY: this is pretty for a brick tudor fireplace. Not the mirror, I'd say, but the brick and mantle and molding. KG: I like the brick and molding I like the idea of a warm mantle like our family room. I added a picture with an arched opening I thought added a nice touch.
SY: you have a small (but mighty) outdoor kitchen in our plan - 6 or 7' long. Remind me / tell me - What will go there? A gas grill? Refrigerator drawers or beverage fridge? Plumbing? KG: Tommy says Grill, Smoker, Small fridge or fridge drawers, minor cabinets and drawers with a single deep sink with a shut off valve for over wintering. SY: got it and got your message. We'll indicate gas, electric & plumbing there and suggest you call my friend Russ Greene at https://www.greenexteriordesign.com/ to design the kitchen.
SY: I know you want heaters in the ceiling on the porch. What about fans? KG: ABSOLUTELY. What's a covered porch without fans? :-) SY: agree. Got it.
SY: I just saw this and figure I share it with you to investigate with Brad for a screen option. KG: Thank you, I had planned on a motorized screen option but it may have to wait for a year or two depending on budget. PS, I love that gable. SY: thumbs up!
SY: I don't think we've gotten dimensions from you yet on the refrig and freezer units that go in the butler's pantry. Could you share those please? KG:I need to do some research on standard size upright freezer. I plan to use one of my existing refrigerators. Will get these to you. SY: thanks, if not models than just dimensions of each units would help immensely, thank you.
SY: Cooper & Finns' food and water bowls. Was thinking, in butler's pantry, perhaps just on the floor between door and R/F? Then depending on budget you can build them into a cabinet or just leave them. Maybe just some hooks above if no cabinet. Is that ok? Maybe the dog food goes in this room too somewhere - you can figure that out when you get into cabinetry details with your cabinet maker. Will they eat in there away from their humans? Will you keep the door open so they can access water? KG: yes it would be ok if they ate and drank in there and yes door would need to stay open. I do not know what you mean by "between door and R/F." Please advise. SY: I mean between the garage door and the refrigerator/freezer. Good?
SR: Another example of integrating the island seating with the table seating. I know this is way more modern than your liking in images before. So, leave the style part out of this question, just looking at potential execution of the island to table part of the program. KG: we like the tall island height seating in this pic and the ability to push the stools under the counter when not using because I’m afraid of the walking room between the counter and the brick wall won’t be sufficient. SR: Thank you.
SR: Ignoring the colors and style altogether, because I know this is not your look for your kitchen. But just looking at the way the island has "bar seating" and a table, is this all one level seating attached to the island something you would consider? I would make your table that extends off the end longer so that it could seat 4 at least, but it's a way to tie into the seating at the island itself as well. Thoughts? KG: like the concept but have hesitation about the seating lower than the countertop. See next pic. SR: Got it thank you.,
SY: Can you please clarify for me what you want in the butler's pantry for refrigeration? I wrote down full sized fridge and freezer after our last meeting (like this image above of another of our projects), but that you might use what you have already...KG: thanks for clarifying; we are planning to use what we already have for a fridge and getting a new full size vertical freezer to put next to it. This idea is lovely though. SY: what size vertical freezer? do you know the model of the existing fridge and the new freezer too?
SY: We are working on your ensuite bathroom and without the tub, it makes for a very (maybe too) long shower and vanity both. This seems like a more efficient layout. Windows would be in the shower. Might want to make the garage closet shallower, so the shower head doesn't get hit by the glass door. Anyway, thoughts on this new direction for layout, including storage in Tommy's garage? KG: we have reviewed it and are good with the footprint. SY: great!
SY: For the counter area left of the sink, along the west wall,u need wine storage? Standard coffee pot? Small microwave can go here? Where does your bev fridge go? Pantry or kitchen. KG: redoing my comment; yes to coffee pot, espresso maker in the beverage station but no drink fridge. Would love to add a small faucet with sink if at all possible; sent you a video from cabin in the Smokies that had one and it was amazing!
SY: on the west butler's panty wall, I think you want 1) the fridge, 2) a cleaning cabinet, 3) some hooks and a bench/shoe area. Good?KG: yes to a cleaning cabinet if it fits BUT I already have a cleaning utility closet in my laundry room. I do not want to spend much if any real estate in this room for shoe area and hooks because I already have it in my laundry room. That space is the “drop zone.” I would love to hide the dogs food and water bowls in this room somehow. SY: got it. Will nix hooks and shoes in this butler's pantry! And minimize any sort of tall cabinet in favor of lower cabinets and upper shelves, and a dog food and water station, and a Refrigerator - or did you want both a full size Refrig and a full size Freezer?
SY: Using this image to ask two things: 1) Do full overlay cabinet doors as shown here have your approval? It's definitely what we suggest for look and budget for you. 2) How about hood design? This is streamlined and straight, unadorned. But note that yours will be flanked by uppers. I will pin some other images.KG: overlay cabinet style approved; i like the hood in the last picture with the upper glass cabinets SY: got it.
SY: you pinned this image before and it's a great hood direction showing paneled and straight and flanked by uppers. Ok by you? I also like the glass cabinets up high and might try that.KG: I love that hood even more than the last one. I too like the glass up high with lights and those latches. I love latches. SY: got it
SY: focusing here on the hood between the uppers. This is lovely, scooping out like it does. The former images are more straight down. I like all. Any feelings?KG: I like this swoop more than the more contemporary straight lines.
SY: Using this image to share the unfortunate news that your fireplace niches are only 20" deep or so, which may not be deep enough for wall ovens. Wah Wah Wah. When you spec your wall oven / convection micro, you can check install depth to see if it works. Meanwhile, this is similar to the one you put in the allowances sheet - gas range Cafe, 30" with double ovens. (It's also gorgeous in this finish incidentally but comes in stainless.) About $3500, which you allowed for. We can also do single oven in range with another elsewhere. KG: I'm ok either way. Double oven in the range or a single in the oven and another somewhere else. I'm indifferent but the more I looked at these Cafe Appliances I'm in love.
SY: the other pieces in that Cafe cream and brass line. Not this hood though, don't go there. :)kG: this is beautiful, I’m a little scared of the cream on the fridge but as long as I can clean it and it won’t stain it should be fine. Can you send me a link to the product collection so I can read user reviews? SY: of course - but we will play with this as well as stainless. https://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/CGS750P4MW2.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse&utm_term=CGS750P4MW2&gclid=CjwKCAjws--ZBhAXEiwAv-RNLw9OTPN4iTKLSqmhVfn5xM2QTI0Lezj-quP29dXbQJ3q2j4uDAq1oRoCm_IQAvD_BwE KG: I’ve reviewed it and so many users talk about how it is easy to clean and doesn’t stain and how well the appliances work.
SY: Using this image to say, what about microwave? You allowed $2000 for built in. But there are many solutions. Above counter, below counter, built in (drawer pops out), standard (as shown above), put it in the butler's pantry.... tell me about your microwave use and thoughts.KG: we use the microwave a 100xper day so close to the food prep working space in the island seems ideal. I budgeted $2k because I had no idea about what I would need if we put it in the brick. I do not want it in the butler’s pantry. SY: ok!
SY: here's a built in microwave. https://susanyeleyhomes.com/mullet-house/KG: I like this solution for a microwave so it is t cluttering a counter.
KG: what do you think about adding the “Tudor” on the risers? SY: Hm, maybe. But probably not if it's in the foyer. Can I play with LVP and tile in the foyer? KG: sure! SY: thumbs up!
KG: maybe a neutral tile like this with a small dark tile SY: maybe. Reads a little 1995 to me. Also, harder install = more $$.
SY: Ok. Appliances. This is a 48" stainless range - obv this is awesome. I know you said you'd invest in range over refrigerator. But for budget-consciousness, shall I start with a 36" range? (Again, 30" is standard. 36" is the beginning size of professional.) KG: let's start with a standard 30" range. SY: I can fit two ovens, I think, in the brick, but I could also put one in the range and a second with a convection microwave in the brick wall? KG: Tommy and I love using the brick wall for an oven and convection microwave. SY: Got it. My only hesitation is that it is outside the kitchen triangle and in a heavy traffic path. Thoughts on that? Kg: it doesn’t bother me. In the allowances spreadsheet I included a hyperlink for a range that has a double oven. Even if the range has a double oven, I still think it makes sense to put at least another oven in the fireplace. SY: ok!
SY: Couple things for you to respond to here. 1) This is a standard, not builtin fridge. It's what I'm going for for you. Right? 36"D (full depth). (Doors can be configured however.) KG: Yes I THINK; I wasn't sure what would even fit in the space. 2) These are inset cabinets. Like your bar. That is the most expensive style. We can save some money and do full overlay. Which is still better than standard overlay, where the doors sit on top of the frame but you see some of the rail between them. KG: Tommy votes for the cabinet front if it isn't too much extra. Standard is what you have in your laundry room. SY: sorry, what do you mean by "cabinet front?" There are three options: inset, full overlay, and standard overlay, in order of cost. (You have inset in bar, and standard in laundry, and we often do full overlay. See full overlay in the checkerboard floor kitchen, one row down.)
SY: I mean, if you def want tile in the kitchen, and you def keep LVP in the family room, I say we lean into the tile and make it look like tile, and get you your wood cabinets! KG: I need to make some calls to my cabinet guys before I lean all in on wood cabinets. I don’t want to spend $80K on cabinets. Tommy veered us down that path BUT he’s not set on it. SY: Totally. We don't need to do all wood cabinets; but more (like perhaps the island) would be a possibility if the tile were not wood-like. (Plus as I said, you won't have two fake woods going on the floors.)
SY: this tile is on Wayfair at a very reasonable pricepoint. It might make for a beautiful and fun Tudor look. Ties in your dark blue-gray elsewhere and allows for some real wood cabinets! I love this. SY: is that Karla who said you love this, or did I say I love this? lol I do love it but I can't remember if I typed it. :) It looks pretty great in model. As does the checkerboard.
SY: This is gorgeous. The dark brown softens the pattern (from black) and ties to your LVP. Hearkens back to that kitchen floor tile you liked below but might be easier to obtain and install (read: less expensive). Would need to make sure it's not too busy/ works in all the ways. Maybe the foyer and back hall are LVP and this is just kitchen? (ALSO NOTE: THESE CABINETS ARE FULL OVERLAY.)
SY: Can you please remind me of the assumptions on the stairs? Will Bradley put your LVP on the treads? If so maybe you do white risers and a runner like this that ties to the carpet in the adjacent spaces. This is lovely.KG: proposal says oak treads to be painted/stained by someone else and carpet runner to be installed. I’m not sure you can put LVP on treads. SY: got it and agree! But the oak treads can match stain on your LVP; that will be the plan for cohesion. KG: perfect!!
SY: stairs / runner / color scheme inspo for kitchen and foyer? Also I love this neutral carpet for your bedroom/office/upstairs. This whole house is lovely. https://theidentite.co/design-trend-checkerboard-flooring/kg: gorgeous!!! I bet Tommy would love that floor. SY: right? Show him and lmk! KG: just showed this to Tommy and he likes it too!
SY: something like this in your foyer and kitchen might be more neutral than the orange or brown/white but have a little subdued color. It's still a contrast with the wood like LVP and enable you to bring back wood cabinets. https://www.tilebar.com/sample-kalay-green-9-hexagon-polished-porcelain-tile.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwkOqZBhDNARIsAACsbfJcWiESYpxLEIRYPH_TJeyuu1r2UGToZkehIFKpXhuzQRRokKiWKuUaAhRNEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.dsKG: It’s “meh” to me but I understand what you mean. I’m thinking a darker tile so I can use a darker grout. SY: totally. I think the brown and white squares or orange white and blue are my finalists at this point.
SY: tile in kitchen that does not complete with LVP in family room. (Darker hex)Kg: I like this idea!
KG: I love the warm wood, with the white, SOME cabinet glass, the inset ledge with the pot filler, and mix matched sizes of drawer pulls on the cabinets. LOVE almost everything about this; just needs a few more darker elements to charm it up a smidge. SY: got it. I love this kitchen, too. And we could likely achieve this with your LVP floors. Do you need the pot filler? It's an expensive element that budget-conscious people often forego. SY: Karla says yes to pot filler
SY: this image over all is, I think, too stark for you. But I'm putting it here to see if we can play with tile that is not wood-like in the kitchen/foyer. Maybe a lighter neutral hex like this. But I must say I prefer the orange or brown and white for more interest, color and contrast.
SY: Ok. Given budget constraints, I'm wondering if we don't nix the tub in your ensuite bath. You said it was not necessary. Let's get you the things that are and skip the things that are not! You can get a longer vanity with a storage tower, and a huge beautiful shower like this all the way across the west end of the bathroom. You could even do jets and things with your tub money. KG: Nix the tub and yes to big, fancier shower and storage. SY: Perf. I like this configuration for you, but flip flopped with the plumbing on the pony wall and south wall.
SY: window options in shower, frosted, operable for air and view. Also note, full glass panel here, no door. I like the option to the left, showing a half wall with glass above; I'd add a glass door for warmth. The half wall makes it possible to put plumbing where you can reach it easily without getting wet. (Note that you don't want any plumbing on an outside wall but if we must, we can add thickness to an outside wall to insulate plumbing and/or niches if we really must.)
SY: ok, so this is not Taos Taupe, but it's dark trim with dark taupe walls, and also a white ceiling like yours, and it's gorgeous. You'll want to lighten up the things inside... even if your bedding is not white, can it be ticking or not totally dark?
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